Warehouse tape-measure photos decide whether a parcel ships or goes back. We cover Kakobuy laid-flat measurement requests, the four numbers that matter for tops, photo distortion, and what to do when the reading lands between two sizes.
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Fit is the one QC variable you cannot fix after the parcel lands. A crooked print is a refund argument; a hoodie that measures two centimetres too narrow across the chest is an international shipping fee already paid, a second one to send it back, and three weeks of your life. So the sizing question, will this actually fit me, gets answered at the warehouse, from a photograph of a tape measure.
Request laid-flat numbers, not a size letter
The warehouse check produces a photo set: front, back, label, hardware and, on clothing, one or two tape-measure frames. That tape shot is the only frame we open first. If it is missing, or the tape lies across the chest at an angle, everything else waits.
Open the item in your warehouse list, use the message thread attached to that order line, and ask in centimetres:
- Lay the garment flat, fasten it, smooth the chest and photograph a tape measure against the fabric.
- Pit to pit, armpit seam to armpit seam, straight across.
- Shoulder seam to shoulder seam, across the top of the back.
- Body length, from the high shoulder point to the finished hem at the back.
- Sleeve, from the shoulder seam to the cuff edge.
- Shoot straight down from above, keep the tape flat, send full resolution.
Replies in our files have come back between 14 and 38 hours. A measurement request stays open until you answer it, and the item cannot be submitted for international shipping while it is pending, so send the message the day the QC album appears, not the evening you plan to consolidate. In our log that habit is the difference between a parcel handed to a line on day nine and one that sat in the warehouse for a fortnight.
The four numbers that decide a top
| Measurement | How the warehouse should take it | What it decides |
|---|---|---|
| Pit to pit | Garment flat, measured across the chest from armpit seam to armpit seam | Whether you can layer under it; two centimetres here is a whole size |
| Shoulder seam to seam | Straight across the back, seam to seam, no stretching | The number you cannot alter. Narrow binds, wide slides off |
| Body length | High shoulder point to the finished hem at the back | Whether it covers a belted waistband or stops above it |
| Sleeve | Shoulder seam to cuff edge, laid flat and unwrinkled | Whether the cuff sits at the wrist or swallows your hand |
Chest circumference, waist and recommended body size are seller language. Pit to pit is garment language. Double it to compare with the tape you take around yourself: a 57 cm pit to pit is roughly 114 cm around the chest, before the fabric's own stretch.
Compare against something you already own
Take the best-fitting hoodie in your wardrobe, lay it on the floor, smooth it flat without pulling, and measure those same four numbers. That garment's numbers, not your body's, are what you hold against the warehouse photo. A hoodie washed and worn 20 times may have relaxed one to two centimetres through the body; subtract that first, or you will match a stretched-out garment and buy a size too small. Read the difference, not the label: under 1 cm is noise between measuring hands, around 2 cm at the chest is a size, and 2 cm at the shoulder is a different garment.
Where warehouse photos lie
We open every warehouse tape shot at full size and re-measure the delivered garment flat on our desk afterwards. The pattern is consistent: straight-down shots match delivery, angled ones do not.
- Parallax. If the phone is tilted, the tape nearest the lens reads long. An angled chest shot has been off by 2 cm in our files; a straight-down shot has matched delivery within 0.5 cm.
- Fabric not pulled flat. A sleeve tucked under the body or a hood folded behind the shoulders shifts the chest reading by one to two centimetres.
- Hem curl. If the bottom edge rolls up, body length reads short.
- Light and shadow. An overhead lamp can hide a seam or add apparent fabric at the edge of the tape.
- Digital zoom. Cropped phone frames distort proportion. Ask for full-frame instead.
- Tape sag. A soft tape laid across thick loopback droops; it should sit on the fabric, not be stretched across it.
Seller size charts pad the numbers
Most factory listings do not print garment measurements at all. They print a body chart, the height and chest of the person the seller imagines wearing the piece, rounded upward so nobody complains about a snug fit. A chart that does not say laid flat and give a number per size is decoration. Treat any chart whose figures run two to four centimetres wider than a warehouse tape shot as padding.
The brand-level version of the same problem is BAPE's Japanese cut. Independent sizing guidance on the label puts it plainly: BAPE runs small, cut leaner through the chest and shorter in the body, and a BAPE Large behaves closer to a Western Medium. BAPE's own product pages publish per-size garment measurements in centimetres, body length, chest width, shoulder width and sleeve, which is exactly the format to match against rather than a letter.
What our BAPE hoodie actually measured
The white cotton loopback pullover in our sizing file, 350 to 400 gsm terry, arrived tagged L. Its warehouse tape shot read 57 cm pit to pit, 47 cm shoulder seam to seam, 68 cm body length and 60 cm sleeve. Re-measured flat after delivery: 57.5, 47, 67.5 and 60.5. The loose-cut volume in this batch is real, and the dropped shoulder reads larger on a hanger than on a person.
Against our reference European large hoodie, though, it sits two centimetres narrower at the chest. So the honest answer is not size up or true to size, but this: order your usual size if you want it to sit like the listing photos over a t-shirt, and go up one if you want that drape to survive a thick layer underneath. The tag letter was the least informative thing in the parcel.
When the reading lands between two sizes
- Check the shoulders first. If the smaller size matches your reference shoulder seam to seam, you can usually live with a slightly tighter chest.
- Budget 2 cm of ease for layering. Worn over a heavy sweatshirt, a hoodie needs pit to pit at least 2 cm wider than your bare t-shirt fit.
- If the smaller size already exceeds your reference by 2 cm at the chest, drop down; the larger body length will read like a dress and the cuffs will pass your hands.
- Expect one to two centimetres of vertical shrinkage in heavy cotton on a first cold wash. Do not buy extra length for it, but do not choose a body length that is exactly your minimum either.
- Decide from chest, shoulder and body length together, never from the hood, the cuff ribbing or a model photo.
The tag is a seller's opinion. A tape measure against the actual garment, shot straight down, is the only number that survives contact with your wardrobe, and requesting it costs one message instead of two shipping fees.
Nadia Vermeer is Editor-in-Chief at Kakobuytop, running the testing desk, writing agent workflow guides and signing off every score. Nadia personally opens roughly half the parcels that reach the desk, while running its seven-step sequence and maintaining each parcel's master file. Order timestamps, agent replies, QC images, line choice, tracking logs, delivered weight and the score sheet form that record. Every received item is compared with full-size warehouse QC photos before scoring; listing photographs alone do not qualify a product for a score, and articles are held until the parcel arrives.
Sources and notes
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What Is Sizing Like at A Bathing Ape (BAPE) clothing?
Independent sizing guidance on BAPE's Japanese cut: size up once for a regular fit, twice for oversized, and a BAPE Large behaves closer to a Western Medium. Also recommends measuring an owned garment flat rather than trusting the body chart.
2026-10-07 -
How to Measure Yourself (pit to pit explained)
Defines pit to pit as the flat measurement of a garment rather than a body measurement, and advises going up a size when a measurement falls between two sizes.
2026-10-07 -
Shirts and Jackets: How We Measure Tops
Confirms the full-width pit-to-pit convention for tops, including fabric that measures wider than the visible seam line.
2026-10-07 -
BAPE Relaxed Fit Pullover Hoodie, product measurements
Brand-published garment measurements per size in centimetres: body length, chest width, shoulder width and sleeve. The format a warehouse tape shot should be compared against.
2026-10-07 -
Kakobuy Warehouse, Shipping and Storage Explained
Describes warehouse receipt, the free QC check and the storage window, and why an item stays in the warehouse until a QC question such as a measurement request is resolved.
2026-10-07 -
The Photographer's Guide to Perfect Kakobuy Spreadsheet Orders
Written from the photographing side: uneven lighting, missing scale references and bad angles are named as the main causes of distorted measurements in QC images.
2026-10-07
Frequently asked
Can I ask for extra measurements after the QC photos are posted?
Yes. Reply in the item's message thread and the warehouse will usually re-shoot with a tape measure. That request keeps the item on hold, so nothing ships while it is open. Replies in our files took 14 to 38 hours.
Should I size up in a BAPE hoodie if I am between sizes?
Go up one. BAPE uses a Japanese cut that runs leaner through the chest and shorter in the body, so a BAPE large reads closer to a Western medium. For the draping, shoulder-dropping look in the listing photos, consider two sizes up.
Do I need a tape measure at home for this?
One soft tape measure is enough. Measure a hoodie you already own, laid flat, rather than your own body, then compare those four numbers against the warehouse photo. One centimetre of difference is measuring noise; two centimetres is a size.